Conversation in a cafe in Berlin between Uli Aumüller and Helmut Lachenmann about the aesthetics of Not-Music

The basis for this radio program was a conversation in 1999 that took place in a cafe in Berlin between Uli Aumüller and Helmut Lachenmann about the aesthetics of Not-Music. The associations and digressions were interrupted by a performance of the Nightingale of Ramersdorf (a well known artist who will only stop singing if you give him money), and the discussion took another direction: What is not music? (in German)

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